I saw in another post Torodo mention something he called a Weapon's Damage rating which is derived from multiplying a weapons DPS by its speed. I thought it was a great concept to show the validity of weapons so I created a table of most weapons we might use and calculated their Weapon Damage Ratiing. It looked pretty good, but the thing I noticed is that speed was weighted too heavily. For example, I've run alot of tests on fast and slow weapons of various speeds and while a 2.6 speed 65 dps slow green is definately better than a 1.8 speed 71 DPS weapon, I found it to be almost as good as my emerald ripper (87dps) and not as good as my Malchazeen. But simply multiplying weapon speed by DPS makes the green blow away even 100 DPS weapons as far as Weapon Damage rating is concerned.

I created the Weapon DPS Index (WDI) to give greater weight to the white damaged gained from an increase in DPS, not matter the weapon speed. The results match my testing very closely for just about everything I've tested up to 90 DPS weapons. Beyond that I'll need help, or time to confirm the results.

Here is the WDI equation: ((DPS*Speed) + 0.5*DPS)/3

Below is a representative table of most weapons we might use. Notice 2.5 seems to be the break even point where the WDI = DPS. It might mean something, it might not.

EDIT: Hopefully this is more readable

			Weapon DPS Index			

Rank	DPS	speed	Index	Ratio	Differential	Weapon

1	100.2	2.8	110.2	1.10	10.0	Syphon Nathrezim

2	98.7	2.7	105.3	1.07	6.6	Rod of Sun King

3	97.6	2.7	104.1	1.07	6.5	Dragonstrike

4	97.6	2.7	104.1	1.07	6.5	WickedEdgePlanes

5	100.2	2.6	103.5	1.03	3.3	Rising Tide

6	93.7	2.7	99.9	1.07	6.2	TalonPheonix

7	91.1	2.7	97.2	1.07	6.1	Dragonmaw

8	91.1	2.7	97.2	1.07	6.1	Black Planar Edge

9	93.7	2.6	96.8	1.03	3.1	Netherbane

10	92.1	2.6	95.2	1.03	3.1	The Decapitator

11	91.2	2.6	94.2	1.03	3.0	Gladiator's Slow

12	87.5	2.6	90.4	1.03	2.9	Fool's Bane

13	84.3	2.7	89.9	1.07	5.6	Planar Edge

14	84.3	2.7	89.9	1.07	5.6	Drakefist Hammer

15	87.6	2.5	87.6	1.00	0.0	Big Bad Wolf's Paw

16	83.7	2.6	86.5	1.03	2.8	The Blade Fist

17	83.5	2.4	80.7	0.97	-2.8	Runic Hammer

18	100.3	1.8	76.9	0.77	-23.4	Boundless Agony

19	71.7	2.7	76.5	1.07	4.8	Reflex Blades

20	98.6	1.8	75.6	0.77	-23.0	Fang of Vashj

21	83.4	2.2	75.1	0.90	-8.3	Fel Edged axe

22	71.7	2.6	74.1	1.03	2.4	Boggspine Knckles

23	93.6	1.8	71.8	0.77	-21.8	Heartrazor

24	71.6	2.5	71.6	1.00	0.0	Terrok's Gavel

25	91.9	1.8	70.5	0.77	-21.4	Malchazeen

26	65.5	2.6	67.7	1.03	2.2	AH GREEN

27	87.5	1.8	67.1	0.77	-20.4	Emeral Ripper

28	100.3	1.5	66.9	0.67	-33.4	Tracker's Blade

29	100.3	1.5	66.9	0.67	-33.4	Swiftsteel Bludgeon

30	62.6	2.5	62.6	1.00	0.0	Mag'Hari Fury Bnd

31	93.7	1.5	62.5	0.67	-31.2	Claw pheonix

32	91.1	1.5	60.7	0.67	-30.4	Gladiator's Fast

I don't know if this also doesn't weigh white damamge heavy enough as even the 100 DPS 1.5 speed weapons are almost last, but I don't have any to test with. I think in the least this gives a representation of how screwed up the WF cooldown is.

Let me know if there are ways to improve it.

I'm having a hard time sifting through the index. For example:

Would it be more beneficial for me to be dual-wielding Runic Hammer in my MH and Offhanding an AH green or Demonblood Evicerator in my MH and Runic Hammer in my off?

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I'm having a hard time sifting through the index. For example:

Would it be more beneficial for me to be dual-wielding Runic Hammer in my MH and Offhanding an AH green or Demonblood Evicerator in my MH and Runic Hammer in my off?

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Just look at the rank on the left. higher the rank, the higher the index, the better the weapon. It does not tell you which hand to put the weapon in though.


You might be able to add together the WDI of the weapon you want in the MH and half the WDI of the offhand to get an idea which combination might be better. But thats not relly what I am intending with the table.

For the combos you mention the combined WDI for Runic MH/green OH = 114.45

For Demon blood MH/Runic OF = 114.55. MAYBE that means the latter is a slightly better combo. Maybe.

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Sorry, I'm visual like this. Edit: awww, crap, I can't line up DPS worth anything. meh.

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Is my formatting crap too? Looks fine on my screen.

This is a great idea, but it doesn't show the sharp rise in DPS at 2.0 speed with the windfury cooldown. It may be useful in its current incarnation, but I wouldn't say it attempts to be accurate.

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Here is the WDI equation: ((DPS*Speed) + 0.5*DPS)/3

Below is a representative table of most weapons we might use. Notice 2.5 seems to be the break even point where the WDI = DPS. It might mean something, it might not.

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Yeah, it might mean that (2.5 + 0.5) / 3 = 1.

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Yeah, it might mean that (2.5 + 0.5) / 3 = 1.

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Maybe, maybe not ;p

just out of curiosity whats the index of the dragonmaw line of weapons while the proc is active?

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just out of curiosity whats the index of the dragonmaw line of weapons while the proc is active?

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Weapon        	DPS	Speed	WDI



Drakefist Hammer	84.3	2.7	89.9



Drakfist proc	101.1	2.25	92.7

Hope the formatting worked.


89.9 for drakefist. 92.7 with proc.


EDIT: Planar edge with 0.8 DPS from crit rating and 3 DPS from AP: WDI = 94

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Just look at the rank on the left. higher the rank, the higher the index, the better the weapon. It does not tell you which hand to put the weapon in though.


You might be able to add together the WDI of the weapon you want in the MH and half the WDI of the offhand to get an idea which combination might be better. But thats not relly what I am intending with the table.

For the combos you mention the combined WDI for Runic MH/green OH = 114.45

For Demon blood MH/Runic OF = 114.55. MAYBE that means the latter is a slightly better combo. Maybe.

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Always a joy to find out all that work and it's barely better than a green ;)

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Always a joy to find out all that work and it's barely better than a green ;)

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I hear ya. But the real problem with that combo is using the better wepon in the offhand essentially halves any advantage it has already. Runic mainhand and demonblood eviscerator OH would be great if youcould - (WDI=117.75)

I'm using Planar edge mh and malchazeen OH so my WDI = 125.5

Planar Edge + Boggspine = 126.95
Planar Edge + green = 123.75
Planar Edge + swiftseel bludgeon = 123.35 O-o

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I hear ya. But the real problem with that combo is using the better wepon in the offhand essentially halves any advantage it has already. Runic mainhand and demonblood eviscerator OH would be great if youcould - (WDI=117.75)

I'm using Planar edge mh and malchazeen OH so my WDI = 125.5

Planar Edge + Boggspine = 126.95
Planar Edge + green = 123.75
Planar Edge + swiftseel bludgeon = 123.35 O-o

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Guess I'll have to do some sweet talking to run heroic underbog or crypts.