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AVG gave me the same thing =o I wonder what it is.

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likely, it's a false positive.

Just the name of the file looks very similar to some trojans, and it's quite possible AVG didn't know what to make of it, so they classified and flagged it as a trojan.

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AVG gave me the same thing =o I wonder what it is.

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Ran scan with definitions from yesterday, no result, ran scan with todays definitions...keylogger wtf? :P

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Hey,

Recently a couple of virus-scanners have been reporting the following programs:
- Backgrounddownloader
- WoW patch executables

The listed programs are reported to have the following malware:
- Trojan-PSW.Win32.WOW
- R/PSW.WOW.RG.3
- Trojan horse PSW.Generic4.TUV

Don't be alarmed, it seems some virus-scanners have been falsely listing these files as malware. To resolve this:
MCafee: Download latest DAT file
AntiVir: Download the latest update
F-Secure: No solution yet
Kaspersky: Download the latest update

My virus scanner still says it's a virus/trojan. What to do?
Please contact Tech-support: http://forums.wow-europe.com/board.html?forumId=11079&sid=1
and also read this handy guide: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=273198555&sid=1

I don't trust you, where's a blue comment?!
Right here: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=296211019&sid=1&pageNo=1


Credit to a Europe MVP.

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I'm gonna quote this in the hopes that all the people continuing to say "I wonder what it is!" may actually read it this time.

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L2BuyAMac

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one link says it all: http://library.coloradocollege.edu/steve/archives/images/%20sadmac.png

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I've noticed a trend with these omg wtf i got haxx0rd threads


everyone reporting them is using AVG anti-virus

no one using norton, trend-micro or any other av proggy is having that problem

there is no virus folks, just some files that for some reason look suspicous to AVG. And yes, I use trend-micro, I scanned the WoW folder as well as registry entries for recent malicious changes and as I suspected.. nothing

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Norton would not be able to indentify a virus if even if it was labeled I R VIRUS LOLZ!
(because the virus would have disabled norton long before that... using public dlls from windows = stupid move for a good Anti-Virus software)

as for the detected one... If you downloaded it with Blizzard's bit taurent link, there is no virus if your AV report a trojant: it's a false positive.

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L2BuyAMac

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L2BeWarryOfMac

I would not trust an OS that never has annyone who searches for security holes since the absence of proof does not mean absence of holes specially in an OS(it's not only 10 lines of codes...)

Also since no ones are on Mac, it's not a high priority target... but just put 20% of the world's computer users on Mac and you will get about as mutch security breaches when on windows.

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L2BeWarryOfMac

I would not trust an OS that never has annyone who searches for security holes since the absence of proof does not mean absence of holes specially in an OS(it's not only 10 lines of codes...)

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You really shouldn't make sweeping statements like that when you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

2 words, false negative

Latest version of F-Secure anti-virus reports the same thing.


OS X, Windows, and the thing we've grown to call 'Linux' are all full of holes. Why do you think there are 'security patches' and 'critical patches' so often?

If you're a smart user, you'll be fine. If you click everything you see, you're doomed.

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L2BuyAMac

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You really shouldn't make sweeping statements like that when you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

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I'm sorry... but you wrong I know exacly what i'm talking about.


The reason why Mac is persived(sp?) to have no security holes is because of 2 things:
1: Censure from the compagny
2: Low percentage of the population that uses it.

The first reason was confirmed last year when a group discovered a security hole in the wireless system. Apple almost went to court to shut that group up.

The second reason is common knowledge. Few people are on mac therefore Mac is not a target for hackers.

Now I can also explore another thing:
Why is there security holes in Windows?
The amount of code lines in Windows is astromically high. (When I say windows I mean windows itself and all the microsoft provided services and drivers to make the OS work)
We can also safely assume that Mac as roughtly the same high amount of code lines(and the different daemons(services) and drivers), therefore there is also the same probability of a security hole then in windows.

Since Mac users never think that there is the possibility of a security hole, they dont really invest in security thinking that the lack of Found security holes makes them safe. Unfortunatly, this is not the case because absence of proof do not infirm the fact that there is a good possilibity of a security hole in Mac.

Therefore I can safely conclude that Mac as the same probable amount of security holes when Windows.
(note: I did not counsider Linux in this because what can be said for Mac can also be said for Linux.)

Theory: Absence of proof of security holes can cause an false security sentiment that will endanger information at long terms(sp?)

edit: corrected wording...

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Now address this: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110467335&sid=1&pageNo=1

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I agree, those are the two biggest issues deserving a response -- this one and that one. This one is done, time for that one.

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You're just trolling, I hope, and realize that the reason there aren't more Mac viruses is because the install base of Mac users isn't large enough to make it worth hijacking their machines to add to a botnet?

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There are millions of Mac users yet 0 viruses. Your logic fails.

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The reason why Mac is persived(sp?) to have no security holes is because of 2 things:
1: Censure from the compagny
2: Low percentage of the population that uses it.

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perceived. and mac the company doesn't really brag out its lack of security holes, it allows its user to do so for it. and according to google figures, the mac share has risen from 3% to 7% in the last few year. 7% of a billion people is hardly insignificant.

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The first reason was confirmed last year when a group discovered a security hole in the wireless system. Apple almost went to court to shut that group up.

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not quite. several 'hacker' organizations have tried to own and pwn macs over the last year. the most sucessful attempt went to a hacker who exploited a hole in mac's safari browser. he effected shell level access, but could not actually accomplished anything. the hole has since been patched. there have been no recent 'near court cases' about anything.

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Since Mac users never think that there is the possibility of a security hole, they dont really invest in security thinking that the lack of Found security holes makes them safe. Unfortunatly, this is not the case because absence of proof do not infirm the fact that there is a good possilibity of a security hole in Mac.

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partly true. mac users don't really look for holes. we know there are few bugs, if any, and we know that someone who hates us for being so secure will find them, attempt to exploit them, and mac will release a patch within 24 hours to correct the issue. no worries. plus, we're most of us smart enough not to browse unsecured sights, and any risky browsing we do, we don't do it from root level accounts.

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Therefore I can safely conclude that Mac as the same probable amount of security holes when Windows.
(note: I did not counsider Linux in this because what can be said for Mac can also be said for Linux.)

Theory: Absence of proof of security holes can cause an false security sentiment that will endanger information at long terms(sp?)

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and finally, while your theory is sound, it simply doesn't apply in this case. we mac users don't suffer from an 'absence of proof' as you suggest. people actually hold contests to hack macs, and, frequently, no one wins. that's hardly a lack of proof.

the poster to whom you attempted to respond was, in fact, correct. you don't know what you're talking about.

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There are millions of Mac users yet 0 viruses. Your logic fails.

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Your not very smart are you?

There are many many many viruses designed for the MAC OS. They are only a fraction of the overall virus issue yes, this is true. However do not be fooled into thinking your safe from viruses because you use a mac! this is a MYTH!

i have serviced MANY pc's and macs on a daily basis that are infected with virues and malware!

so to sum it up!
mac's being immune to viruses is a myth!

Just to clarify, There is a BIG difference between a security exploit, and a virus. Most viruses are NOT spread throu security exploits but actually executed by the user. IE user recvs a email and opens a strange attachment ...

a virus like this ie one ran by the user can easily configure the system (mac or otherwise) to do whatever the programmer desired.

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L2BuyAMac

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http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20060513

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We've been in the process of investigating this issue and we have been able to confirm that this is indeed a false-positive detection by a few anti-viruses in regards to the Blizzard Downloader. The Blizzard Downloader, which is used to download patches, does not contain a trojan, virus, or other malicious code.

We have been working directly with many anti-virus companies to resolve this, some of which have already deployed updated virus definitions that resolve this error. We recommend updating your definitions if you've received this false positive related to the Blizzard Downloader, and that you continue to check for updates as a resolution should be available soon if it is not already.

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Drysc,

After your team is done investigating this problem you should explain to the whole community why this happened.

We deserve answers!