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Thesappster

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Executus

20. Re: @ Neth ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 09:24:34 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
#showtooltip
/cast [nopet] Shadowfiend
/petattack

tap it twice. problem solved.

Yep. That is what i am doing now. Just trying to bring the issue to light. Thanks.

holy/disc....meh...who wants a 41 point talent anyway...right?

Thesappster

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Executus

21. Re: @ Neth ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 09:25:40 AM PDT

Q u o t e:

I'm in a bad mood today. Sorry for being a jerk. Anyways, for now. Find a shadowfiend macro and it'll work if you don't get a pet bar.

No worries. You had a valid point. I probably should have went to the bug forums.

holy/disc....meh...who wants a 41 point talent anyway...right?

Nethaera

Blizzard Poster

22. ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 11:44:01 AM PDT

We've forwarded player feedback on this. It's something that is going to be looked into.

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Garona

23. Re: ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 11:47:20 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
We've forwarded player feedback on this. It's something that is going to be looked into.

Yay!

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Laneer

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Deathwing

24. Re: ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 11:48:35 AM PDT

In the mean time you can get bartender3 from the following link and it will fix the petbar problem.

http://files.wowace.com/

This same problem occurs on the Water Elemental too.

IMHO the Devs need to rethink the whole shadowfiend idea. The pet with a bar is even more worthless to me than he was before. Give us some other more useful mana tool.

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Brthrmaynard

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Bonechewer

25. Re: ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 11:50:36 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
Neth,

Can you pass on to the Dev's that we need the pet bar to show up for SF under all circumstances. As it stands now, if you are "in combat" but don't have aggro, a pet bar will NOT show up if you cast SF and you are forced to type /petattack rather than just click a button. Therefore you have to have a macro to be effective. I love the pet bar idea, and it works great as long as you have aggro. I think it would solve all issues if the pet bar showed up anytime you cast the little dude.

Just asking....let me know. Thanks!!

*Edited the title- Nethaera

I had this problem the week after the new 2.0 system when into effect prior to TBC when we were in naxx... on instructor... and all my bank items got put into my bags.... so I couldn't take off my gear to save duribility while we were trying to figure out the problem....

sigh...

so yeah - it's probably a mod issue... try to duplicate the scenario when it doesn't show up with all your mods disabled and see what happends

[ Post edited by Brthrmaynard ]

Leonelda

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Dark Iron

26. Re: ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 11:57:33 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
We've forwarded player feedback on this. It's something that is going to be looked into.

You mean just like how you guys said that the Priest racials were going to be looked into?

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Spiritstears

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Greymane

27. Re: @ Neth ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 12:02:51 PM PDT

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A bit too much bacon fat and lard cakes today for brekkist huh? Grammar FTL anyways, who needs it if your you, you can just eat the insolent peons if they protest!

Breakfast, huh?* Spelled breakfast right, inserted comma
You're you* peroid
You* capitalized

You need to work on your own grammar before knocking someone else for their English problem.

Nethaera

Blizzard Poster

28. Re: ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 12:02:58 PM PDT

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You mean just like how you guys said that the Priest racials were going to be looked into?

Actually, if you're going to bring up the Priest racials (which is basically moving us off the topic of the Shadowfiend), we said that we would like to look at these again in the future. At one point in time, I believe I said that there weren't any specific plans to look at them. I can now say that they are going to be looked at, but we don't have a specific time frame. It isn't a small undertaking ,and will take more thought than a simple band-aid. The racials have been a pretty integral part of the Priest class whether you feel it's for good or ill since the start of World of Warcraft and it's not something that can be changed overnight. Should changes be made to them, it will be because some dedicated energy has gone into the changes.

[ Post edited by Nethaera ]

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The prince of peace embraced the gloom
And walked the night alone."
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Ska

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Norgannon

29. Re: ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 12:13:15 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

Actually, if you're going to bring up the Priest racials (which is basically moving us off the topic of the Shadowfiend), we said that we would like to look at these again in the future. At one point in time, I believe I said that there weren't any specific plans to look at them. I can now say that they are going to be looked at, but we don't have a specific time frame. It isn't a small undertaking ,and will take more thought than a simple band-aid. The racials have been a pretty integral part of the Priest class whether you feel it's for good or ill since the start of World of Warcraft and it's not something that can be changed overnight. Should changes be made to them, it will be because some dedicated energy has gone into the changes.

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Bonechewer

30. Re: ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 12:13:39 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

Actually, if you're going to bring up the Priest racials (which is basically moving us off the topic of the Shadowfiend), we said that we would like to look at these again in the future. At one point in time, I believe I said that there weren't any specific plans to look at them. I can now say that they are going to be looked at, but we don't have a specific time frame. It isn't a small undertaking ,and will take more thought than a simple band-aid. The racials have been a pretty integral part of the Priest class whether you feel it's for good or ill since the start of World of Warcraft and it's not something that can be changed overnight. Should changes be made to them, it will be because some dedicated energy has gone into the changes.

Thanks for giving us feedback over the past few days.

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Zombie

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Area 52

31. Re: ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 12:14:34 PM PDT

I just made a macro and put it next to my shadowfiend hotkey on my sidebar. I target the mob, click shadowfiend, then hit macro.

What does the macro say? /petattack

It works great with or without pet bar, and haven't had a problem since.

- Zombie

Ska

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Norgannon

32. Re: ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 12:16:19 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
I just made a macro and put it next to my shadowfiend hotkey on my sidebar. I target the mob, click shadowfiend, then hit macro.

What does the macro say? /petattack

It works great with or without pet bar, and haven't had a problem since.

- Zombie

That's a great work around, but hopefully you don't feel that we should always have work arounds for things, especially when dealing with Shadowfiend.

There is something that is much more scarce, something finer far, something rare than ability.

It is the ability to recognize ability.

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Sadface

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Bonechewer

33. Re: ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 12:17:11 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
I just made a macro and put it next to my shadowfiend hotkey on my sidebar. I target the mob, click shadowfiend, then hit macro.

What does the macro say? /petattack

It works great with or without pet bar, and haven't had a problem since.

- Zombie

You can shorten that by making the Macro cast Shadowfiend.

Go to the first page and Copy and paste that macro and put it on your shadow fiend hotkey. It works like a charm :P

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Nightshroud

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Alleria

34. Re: ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 12:18:24 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
I can now say that they are going to be looked at, but we don't have a specific time frame. It isn't a small undertaking ,and will take more thought than a simple band-aid. The racials have been a pretty integral part of the Priest class whether you feel it's for good or ill since the start of World of Warcraft and it's not something that can be changed overnight. Should changes be made to them, it will be because some dedicated energy has gone into the changes.

Good. It's not a trivial thing to fix, as some have made it out to be. Base racials must be considered and such.

No matter what you do, players will complain on these forums. Still it is entirely possible to make them more arguably balanced than, for instance, Night Elf vs. Draenei Priests in a raid healing role.

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Zombie

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Area 52

35. Re: ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 12:19:46 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

You can shorten that by making the Macro cast Shadowfiend.

Go to the first page and Copy and paste that macro and put it on your shadow fiend hotkey. It works like a charm :P

I actually tried that first. First line of macro was Shadowfiend cast (shift-click my shadowfiend spell in spellbook), and the second line was /petattack. But it didn't work for some reason. I'm thinking that it's doing the macro too fast and doing the actual /petattack command before my shadowfiend comes up.

If you have another way of doing it, please explain.

Thanks

- Zombie

Sadface

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Bonechewer

36. Re: ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 12:20:32 PM PDT

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Good. It's not a trivial thing to fix, as some have made it out to be. Base racials must be considered and such.

No matter what you do, players will complain on these forums. Still it is entirely possible to make them more arguably balanced than, for instance, Night Elf vs. Draenei Priests in a raid healing role.

People will always complain. But I agree with Nightshroud. NE racials need the most work.

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Ska

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Norgannon

37. Re: ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 12:21:36 PM PDT

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People will always complain. But I agree with Nightshroud. NE racials need the most work.

UD does, I mean honestly who uses DP.

There is something that is much more scarce, something finer far, something rare than ability.

It is the ability to recognize ability.

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Lightninghoof

38. Re: ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 12:22:35 PM PDT

My absolute favorite is when my pet bar shows up after the shadowfiend has despawned. Then I'm stuck with a freaking empty pet bar until the next time I summon the fiend.

I know it looks cool and all, but they should just replace the fiend's capabilities with a single target spell. I suppose since realisitcally SF is a DOT that returns mana they should just drop the fiend, make VT trainable and give us a 41 point talent that doesn't suck.

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Proudmoore

39. Re: ...concerning Shadow Fiend... 06/01/2007 12:23:24 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

I actually tried that first. First line of macro was Shadowfiend cast (shift-click my shadowfiend spell in spellbook), and the second line was /petattack. But it didn't work for some reason. I'm thinking that it's doing the macro too fast and doing the actual /petattack command before my shadowfiend comes up.

If you have another way of doing it, please explain.

Thanks

- Zombie

I have this EXACT same problem.

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