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  • 0. Existing Raid Content Changes   10/02/2008 09:23:40 AM PDT
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To coincide with the upcoming new talents and mechanic changes for classes in the next patch, we are making some adjustments in existing raid content to provide a smooth transition when the upcoming patch is released. The creatures and bosses in raid dungeons that were introduced in The Burning Crusade will have their health reduced, and most will have their standard melee damage output reduced as well, but their spell and ability damage are not being changed. These changes are being made in all raid dungeons from Karazhan to Sunwell Plateau as well as the outdoor encounters of Doom Lord Kazzak and Doomwalker. On top of this Illidan is also doing his part and will stop casting Shear on players.
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  • Doomhammer
  • 1. Re: Existing Raid Content Changes   10/02/2008 09:25:46 AM PDT
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holy nerf bat Batman

Edit: My 2nd "first" in two days.... I need to actually start working at work I guess.

[ Post edited by Drusillus ]


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  • Shadowmoon
  • 2. Re: Existing Raid Content Changes   10/02/2008 09:27:05 AM PDT
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fifth!
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  • Thaurissan
  • 3. Re: Existing Raid Content Changes   10/02/2008 09:30:41 AM PDT
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Zero!


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  • Lightning's Blade
  • 4. Re: Existing Raid Content Changes   10/02/2008 09:32:03 AM PDT
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The Illidan change is expected(now even more of a joke to MT him!) but did you really need to nerf the health of bosses?
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  • 5. Re: Existing Raid Content Changes   10/02/2008 09:34:29 AM PDT
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Any chance of removing the doors to Mother Sharaz as well? WTB not dying of boredom killing 6 bosses and sharding 90% of the drops.


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  • Dark Iron
  • 6. Re: Existing Raid Content Changes   10/02/2008 09:35:24 AM PDT
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I was expecting mechanic changes like the removal of Sheer, but 30% health off the top seems like a bit much.


Maybe... they really want everyone to see as much content as possible in the last few weeks before WotLK comes out?
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  • 7. Re: Existing Raid Content Changes   10/02/2008 09:35:47 AM PDT
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You should also note that Sunwell Raidance is also being removed.

But then again, most people who even know what that is are already aware of that change.

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  • Sen'jin
  • 8. Re: Existing Raid Content Changes   10/02/2008 09:36:15 AM PDT
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YES PLEASE LET US PORT DIRECTLY TO ILLIDAN
YES PLEASE LET US PORT DIRECTLY TO ILLIDAN
YES PLEASE LET US PORT DIRECTLY TO ILLIDAN
YES PLEASE LET US PORT DIRECTLY TO ILLIDAN
YES PLEASE LET US PORT DIRECTLY TO ILLIDAN
YES PLEASE LET US PORT DIRECTLY TO ILLIDAN




edit: ^red text^

[ Post edited by Huntardlol ]


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  • Bleeding Hollow
  • 9. Re: Existing Raid Content Changes   10/02/2008 09:38:42 AM PDT
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For those wondering why the health of mobs is being reduced, it's most likely because spells are about to cost a whole lot more than what the content was originally tuned for.
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  • 10. Re: Existing Raid Content Changes   10/02/2008 09:44:28 AM PDT
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The Illidan change is expected(now even more of a joke to MT him!) but did you really need to nerf the health of bosses?


Basically they don't want to have a situation like Patchwerk when 2.0.1 hit where groups that could kill him pre-patch couldn't do it post-patch because of all the game mechanic changes. So they're just nerfing them all to ensure they can, because it's obviously not worth the effort to manually test and change each one of them.

And it also gives guilds an incentive to keep pushing through raid content, since whatever boss they're working on now will likely fall over post-patch.

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  • Frostmane
  • 12. Re: Existing Raid Content Changes   10/02/2008 09:49:35 AM PDT
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INC 5/9 guilds who will finally progress past Bloodboil!

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  • 13. Re: Existing Raid Content Changes   10/02/2008 09:49:39 AM PDT
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YES PLEASE LET US PORT DIRECTLY TO ILLIDAN
YES PLEASE LET US PORT DIRECTLY TO ILLIDAN
YES PLEASE LET US PORT DIRECTLY TO ILLIDAN
YES PLEASE LET US PORT DIRECTLY TO ILLIDAN
YES PLEASE LET US PORT DIRECTLY TO ILLIDAN
YES PLEASE LET US PORT DIRECTLY TO ILLIDAN

edit: ^red text^


I'd be happy with them even just removing the doors to Mother. If you don't have the SR gear, you're not going anywhere, and if you have the SR gear, chances are you're killing everything to get there anyways (and are now sharding it).

They did the same thing for Kael and Vashj, why not this?

[ Post edited by Barahur ]


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  • Runetotem
  • 14. Re: Existing Raid Content Changes   10/02/2008 09:50:38 AM PDT
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Welp, this is retarded.


Because you're done with the content. Do us all a favor and quit the game over pixels now.
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  • Uldaman
  • 15. Re: Existing Raid Content Changes   10/02/2008 09:51:13 AM PDT
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Welp, this is retarded.


no, its not.

DPSers use max rank for everything. Healers DO NOT.

Without a serious nerf, you weren't going to be even clearing to Illidan to see shear very easily, and Sunwell would have been nigh un-beatable due to the brutalius healing issues with no downranking and no mana pots chugging and no major shadow priest regen.

Think a little bit before you cry. These fights are going to be as hard, if not harder, even after the nerfs. 3.0.2 reduces effective healing over time by a gigantic, enormous amount, and if you don't know that yet, better get ready to not ever being consistently topped off the way you have been in TBC.
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  • Icecrown
  • 16. Re: Existing Raid Content Changes   10/02/2008 09:53:28 AM PDT
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I cannot see this thread on the forum index. he;lp

Ragnaros misses you.

[Cerine]: I was smiting instead of healing the tank and let me tell you it worked out great
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  • Thunderhorn
  • 17. Re: Existing Raid Content Changes   10/02/2008 09:54:34 AM PDT
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nerf woo!
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  • Drenden
  • 18. Re: Existing Raid Content Changes   10/02/2008 09:57:04 AM PDT
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Warglaives for all warrior and rogues!!!!!
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  • 19. Re: Existing Raid Content Changes   10/02/2008 09:59:21 AM PDT
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Nerf? You see this as a... nerf?

BWAHAHAHAHAH! Fools! You have fallen for blizz's trap card! (No, not doing the ASCII.)

Look above. A lot of raid buffs are going away or becoming non-stacking redundant.

You will also be limited to one potion a fight. Either health or mana. After that you have to leave combat before the cooldown begins.

Downranking is gone. Period. Bubbly bye-bye.

This adjustment is so that current content remains possible, nothing more.

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