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  • 0. A macro to pot in bear, while tanking.   05/21/2007 04:03:38 AM PDT
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I've been testing this all night. Seems to work fine, and generally pops me out of bear, takes a pot and a healthstone, and pops me back within a third of a second or so. I tested against quad wielding (fast attack) shiva mobs in netherstorm--I'd get hit in caster less than half the time. Versus slower hitting talbuks, I could pretty much never get hit. It's fast enough that my (slow) video card never draws my caster model, and I can jump, pot, switch back to bear before I hit the ground.

There is a risk here, but I think it's acceptable when you're almost about to be killed anyway. If you can time it between blows / during a cast, all the better. FOr elemental bosses, it's pretty safe to use a protection potion.


#show Lesser Healing Potion
/castSequence [stance:1] reset=3 Dire Bear Form, Lifebloom
/stopcasting
/use Lesser Healing Potion
/stopcasting
/use Master Healthstone
/stopcasting
/cast [nostance] Dire Bear Form


Obviously, replace Lesser healing Potion with whatever you use. You can (and I suggest you do) repeatedly mash the macro. It'll not throw you back into caster no matter how many times you hit it.

Change reset=3 to reset=120 to make sure you can only use it when your potions / healthstones are cooled down.

Let me know what you think--I intend to test this in kara (don't tell my healers). If it's as (relatively) safe as it seems, this may change bear tanking somewhat.

FAQ

It doesn't work!
1. Make sure that you copied it correctly
2. Make sure you don't have addons that automatically shift you our when you try to do something that you can't do in bearform. Switching "Lifebloom" to "Claw" may help.
3. Make sure you didn't put the macro on a bar that is only accessible in bear! (0-9 by default)
4. Make sure you've taken some damage or the pot won't be taken
5. Some people are experiencing a bug as described here:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=105750997&postId=1056817466&sid=1
Put a semicolon at the end of the castsequence line?

Can I mash this?
You have to. It takes 2 hits of the button to work, and you're safe to mash the button as fast as you can.

It isn't casting lifebloom!
It's not supposed to, the lifebloom keeps it from resetting.

Can I have it case barkskin/lifebloom/etc too?
Afraid not, or it would activate the global cooldown.

Is this safe to use on raids?
Mostly. There's the occasional insta-gib, but posters in this thread have reported success in kara, SSC and beyond.

What does the #show line do?
If you set the macro icon to the question mark, show will show the icon of the appropriate item (complete with cooldown). #show super healing potion, for example.

Is this an exploit?
100% NO. There is nothing here you couldn't do without the macro--if you were a very fast typist or clicker, that is.

[ Post edited by Pantone ]

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  • 1. Re: A macro to pot in bear, while tanking.   05/21/2007 04:11:16 AM PDT
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Further addition--you can also macro in the Adamantine FIgurine activation if you use that trinket. It's a seperate cooldown from the rest, and the additional armor during the potting period makes it much safer to use.

Same with moroes pocketwatch.

Or both.


#show Lesser Healing Potion
/use Adamantine Figurine
/stopcasting
/castSequence [stance:1] reset=3 Dire Bear Form, Lifebloom
/stopcasting
/use Lesser Healing Potion
/stopcasting
/use Master Healthstone
/stopcasting
/cast [nostance] Dire Bear Form

[ Post edited by Pantone ]

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  • 2. Re: A macro to pot in bear, while tanking.   05/21/2007 04:11:45 AM PDT
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this sounds amazing... please keep us updated!

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  • Khaz'goroth
  • 3. Re: A macro to pot in bear, while tanking.   05/21/2007 04:15:32 AM PDT
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Yes pretty amazing, but You shall not mention that damn Pocket watch, or Figurine in my presense!!!!

I hate them, they refuse to drop!!!!!!!!!!!

:(.


Anyway, yea nice macro.


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  • 4. Re: A macro to pot in bear, while tanking.   05/21/2007 04:27:29 AM PDT
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Yes pretty amazing, but You shall not mention that damn Pocket watch, or Figurine in my presense!!!!

I hate them, they refuse to drop!!!!!!!!!!!

:(.


Anyway, yea nice macro.


You are living my life. :(

I'ma gonna try the macro. But those kara bosses will onehit you if it lands on you in caster. Particularly if you are desparate enough to use this .....

But could be super fun for crazy druid elite soloing ....


Edit: THIS WORKS GREAT! Pantone belongs in the druid hall of fame for this. I have used it main tanking Karazhan, and in heroics. I have used it with multiple mobs hitting on me (risky, but it worked!). It's fantastic when you have a healthstone in your inventory. My only complaint is that my consumables costs have gone up .....


[ Post edited by Aradel ]


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  • Scilla
  • 6. Re: A macro to pot in bear, while tanking.   05/21/2007 04:47:48 AM PDT
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hrm...

I get an extra GCD whenever I shift in or out of bear that would seriously prevent me from doing anything like this.

...I've been kinda hoping it wasn't just me. /fail
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  • Scilla
  • 8. Re: A macro to pot in bear, while tanking.   05/21/2007 04:51:32 AM PDT
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Common keylogger.



Seriously, it's everywhere today.
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  • 9. Re: A macro to pot in bear, while tanking.   05/21/2007 04:53:28 AM PDT
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hrm...

I get an extra GCD whenever I shift in or out of bear that would seriously prevent me from doing anything like this.

...I've been kinda hoping it wasn't just me. /fail


You are clicking the class bar to deshift. Blizzard put in an artificial GCD on shifting out of forms on that bar. Right click the buff off, or, better yet, use a macro to shift out.

Simple shift out macro:

/cancelaura [stance:1] Dire Bear Form; [stance:2] Aquatic Form; [stance:3] Cat Form; [stance:4] Travel Form; [stance:5] (spec dependent, either Flight Form, Tree of Life Form or Moonkin Form); [stance:6] Flight Form (if needed)

On the end of this you can add:
/cast [nostance] Dire Bear Form (or any Form you like)

Likewise you can omit "[stance:1] Dire Bear Form;" from the first line, which would give you a macro that will shift you to Dire Bear in two pushes, but will never shift you out of Dire Bear.



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  • Scilla
  • 10. Re: A macro to pot in bear, while tanking.   05/21/2007 04:59:53 AM PDT
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You are clicking the class bar to deshift. Blizzard put in an artificial GCD on shifting out of forms on that bar. Right click the buff off, or, better yet, use a macro to shift out.

Simple shift out macro:

/cancelaura [stance:1] Dire Bear Form; [stance:2] Aquatic Form; [stance:3] Cat Form; [stance:4] Travel Form; [stance:5] (spec dependent, either Flight Form, Tree of Life Form or Moonkin Form); [stance:6] Flight Form (if needed)

On the end of this you can add:
/cast [nostance] Dire Bear Form (or any Form you like)

Likewise you can omit "[stance:1] Dire Bear Form;" from the first line, which would give you a macro that will shift you to Dire Bear in two pushes, but will never shift you out of Dire Bear.





Thanks, I'll try that out when I get home. I already use macros to shift, but I "cast" the spell to unshift.

I've been assuming it was tied to Furor, since I only have the issue w/ bear form, and only on my feral druid.
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  • Khaz'goroth
  • 11. Re: A macro to pot in bear, while tanking.   05/21/2007 05:00:28 AM PDT
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You are clicking the class bar to deshift. Blizzard put in an artificial GCD on shifting out of forms on that bar. Right click the buff off, or, better yet, use a macro to shift out.

Simple shift out macro:

/cancelaura [stance:1] Dire Bear Form; [stance:2] Aquatic Form; [stance:3] Cat Form; [stance:4] Travel Form; [stance:5] (spec dependent, either Flight Form, Tree of Life Form or Moonkin Form); [stance:6] Flight Form (if needed)

On the end of this you can add:
/cast [nostance] Dire Bear Form (or any Form you like)

Likewise you can omit "[stance:1] Dire Bear Form;" from the first line, which would give you a macro that will shift you to Dire Bear in two pushes, but will never shift you out of Dire Bear.





Or you can just have it binded to your Hotbar like me. 9 is shift out for Cat and Bear form for me. I take 9 off the hotbar, and use Crtl+F1, when I am maintanking a big raid boss. I have accidently slipped a few tims and unshifted. :)


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  • 12. Re: A macro to pot in bear, while tanking.   05/21/2007 07:29:11 AM PDT
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Bump for some good info / macro!

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  • Lothar
  • 14. Re: A macro to pot in bear, while tanking.   05/21/2007 08:05:37 AM PDT
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Pantone,

Why the castsquence in the macro? Wouldn't a /cancelaura be more appropriate?

-Bag

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  • 15. Re: A macro to pot in bear, while tanking.   05/21/2007 10:16:23 AM PDT
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Just tested and it works within a second, mashing it is perfect, I have one serious question though. What is the significance of adding Lifebloom on the macro?
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  • 16. Re: A macro to pot in bear, while tanking.   05/21/2007 10:51:35 AM PDT
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Pantone,

Why the castsquence in the macro? Wouldn't a /cancelaura be more appropriate?

-Bag


I believe the point of the /castsequence is to allow you to spam the button. If you are in Dire Bear form, it will cast Dire Bear form (returning you to caster form) and then the cast sequence stalls out, because it won't reset until you cast the next spell in the list, or the timer (3 seconds) runs out. Since it is impossible to cast Lifebloom in Dire Bear form, you have 3 seconds during which you can spam that key, and it won't take you back out of Dire Bear form a second time. That Lifebloom can be replaced by any spell not useable in Dire Bear form.
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  • Turalyon
  • 17. Re: A macro to pot in bear, while tanking.   05/21/2007 11:11:18 AM PDT
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hrm...

I get an extra GCD whenever I shift in or out of bear that would seriously prevent me from doing anything like this.

...I've been kinda hoping it wasn't just me. /fail


..another common reason for the extra GCD is using an auto-weapon switch plugin on shift.

Weapon changes cause a GCD, so if you have itemrack (or something else) switching weapons for you, turn it OFF.

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  • 18. Re: A macro to pot in bear, while tanking.   05/21/2007 11:16:45 AM PDT
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Rather than /use Adamantine Figurine, I'm doing /use 13 - /use 14. (With /stopcasting). As the length of macros blows, and I don't feel like trying to understand how to turn it into an lua script to execute through my notes plugin.

Though the next curiosity

#show Healing Potion

Significance?

Also, for my sake, I replaced Lifebloom with Wrath. 4 characters.. but still. lol.

[ Post edited by Quarlash ]

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  • 19. Re: A macro to pot in bear, while tanking.   05/21/2007 11:25:22 AM PDT
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Q u o t e:

#show Healing Potion



Changes the icon of the macro to a Healing Potion, if you selected the question mark as the icon during macro creation.

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