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  • 0. Sword Spec on PTR fixed.   05/08/2007 12:14:01 AM PDT
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Let me start off by saying, testing something with a 5% proc is very, very, very painfully mind-numbing.

That being said, I did some Warrior Sword Spec testing myself.

I can confirm it's still generating rage, I ran around slaming things until it proced, it definately generates rage increasing my rage bar allowing for more slam 'fun', during that time there were no white hits, so the only thing that could have increased my rage that much was sword spec.

I can also confirm it's not resetting the swing timer like it does on live, I ran around alternating my toon between white hit -> Hamstring -> White hit -> Hamstring. During Hamstring sword spec procs the white hit landed accordingly afterwards as it had been doing.

5/8 02:04:09.390 You hit Skithian Windripper for 718.
5/8 02:04:10.406 Skithian Windripper's Regrowth heals Skithian Windripper for 1394.
5/8 02:04:10.421 Skithian Windripper gains Regrowth.
5/8 02:04:10.625 Skithian Windripper suffers 162 Physical damage from your Deep Wound.
5/8 02:04:11.453 Your Hamstring hits Skithian Windripper for 50.
5/8 02:04:11.453 Your Sword Specialization crits Skithian Windripper for 1433.
5/8 02:04:12.234 You hit Skithian Windripper for 719.

Additional notes: Obviously it's procing off yellow attacks.
I ran into a Shaman, we tested Windfury, it's still generating rage.

None of my sword spec procs were dodged/parried/missed/blocked, but then I was fighting level 64 mobs, not exactly the best pool if you wanna get your attacks avoided.

And yes, Sword spec can still crit.

[ Post edited by Emeraude ]


Warriors are actually fine at 70, zomg.
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  • Feathermoon
  • 1. Re: Sword Spec on PTR fixed.   05/08/2007 12:49:31 AM PDT
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Good to know. /bump for handy info.

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  • Mug'thol
  • 2. Re: Sword Spec on PTR fixed.   05/08/2007 01:13:59 AM PDT
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Wow this could be pretty huge if it's true.

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  • Thorium Brotherhood
  • 4. Re: Sword Spec on PTR fixed.   05/08/2007 02:44:25 AM PDT
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Yes you can still miss/parry/dodge a sword spec swing but still ..

Nice info .. Thanks!!!!

PS: Wish my warrior account wasnt fubard on the boards =p

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  • 5. Re: Sword Spec on PTR fixed.   05/08/2007 02:46:09 AM PDT
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Hi Emmy I love you.

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  • Dark Iron
  • 6. Re: Sword Spec on PTR fixed.   05/08/2007 03:43:18 AM PDT
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Q u o t e:

I can also confirm it's not resetting the swing timer like it does on live, I ran around alternating my toon between white hit -> Hamstring -> White hit -> Hamstring. During Hamstring sword spec procs the white hit landed accordingly afterwards as it had been doing.


Were you running time stamps? If so can you post a screenshot?
If you do I will be your friend.
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  • 7. Re: Sword Spec on PTR fixed.   05/08/2007 08:58:35 AM PDT
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Q u o t e:

Were you running time stamps? If so can you post a screenshot?
If you do I will be your friend.


I was running combat log.

5/8 02:04:09.390 You hit Skithian Windripper for 718.
5/8 02:04:10.406 Skithian Windripper's Regrowth heals Skithian Windripper for 1394.
5/8 02:04:10.421 Skithian Windripper gains Regrowth.
5/8 02:04:10.625 Skithian Windripper suffers 162 Physical damage from your Deep Wound.
5/8 02:04:11.453 Your Hamstring hits Skithian Windripper for 50.
5/8 02:04:11.453 Your Sword Specialization crits Skithian Windripper for 1433.
5/8 02:04:12.234 You hit Skithian Windripper for 719.

[ Post edited by Emeraude ]


Warriors are actually fine at 70, zomg.
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  • 8. Re: Sword Spec on PTR fixed.   05/08/2007 09:10:05 AM PDT
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props for the effort you put in, bump

Diablo1 - warriors = useless
Diablo2 - barbarians = nerfed till they were useless
WoW - warriors = Being nerfed to useless
im beginning to see a pattern...
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  • 9. Re: Sword Spec on PTR fixed.   05/08/2007 09:21:21 AM PDT
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Thank you for posting this.

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  • Khaz'goroth
  • 10. Re: Sword Spec on PTR fixed.   05/08/2007 09:22:13 AM PDT
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good work!

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  • Silver Hand
  • 11. Re: Sword Spec on PTR fixed.   05/08/2007 09:25:04 AM PDT
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Interesting...

I do miss my bonereavers.... but the nerf to sword spec ruined that for me, been axe or mace ever since.

Maybe I'll take a look at sword spec with some cheap 2h sword (the halaa one will do nicely for testing) and see how it goes.


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  • 12. Re: Sword Spec on PTR fixed.   05/08/2007 11:50:42 AM PDT
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As usual, Emeraude with the good info's.
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  • 13. Re: Sword Spec on PTR fixed.   05/08/2007 12:15:27 PM PDT
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nice work testing this, quite huge.

maybe they will throw in a reitemisation of lionheart to go with it, sad its still clearly behind mooncleaver stat wise.

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  • 14. Re: Sword Spec on PTR fixed.   05/08/2007 12:34:26 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:
Let me start off by saying, testing something with a 5% proc is very, very, very painfully mind-numbing.

That being said, I did some Warrior Sword Spec testing myself.

I can confirm it's still generating rage, I ran around slaming things until it proced, it definately generates rage increasing my rage bar allowing for more slam 'fun', during that time there were no white hits, so the only thing that could have increased my rage that much was sword spec.

I can also confirm it's not resetting the swing timer like it does on live, I ran around alternating my toon between white hit -> Hamstring -> White hit -> Hamstring. During Hamstring sword spec procs the white hit landed accordingly afterwards as it had been doing.

5/8 02:04:09.390 You hit Skithian Windripper for 718.
5/8 02:04:10.406 Skithian Windripper's Regrowth heals Skithian Windripper for 1394.
5/8 02:04:10.421 Skithian Windripper gains Regrowth.
5/8 02:04:10.625 Skithian Windripper suffers 162 Physical damage from your Deep Wound.
5/8 02:04:11.453 Your Hamstring hits Skithian Windripper for 50.
5/8 02:04:11.453 Your Sword Specialization crits Skithian Windripper for 1433.
5/8 02:04:12.234 You hit Skithian Windripper for 719.

Additional notes: Obviously it's procing off yellow attacks.
I ran into a Shaman, we tested Windfury, it's still generating rage.

None of my sword spec procs were dodged/parried/missed/blocked, but then I was fighting level 64 mobs, not exactly the best pool if you wanna get your attacks avoided.





And yes, Sword spec can still crit.

i hate to tell you this but your combat log doesnt read as it is....
your sword spec shows up before the attack its coming from in the log for some reason

ive 1 shotted a lowbie and got a proc off it from a auto attack and my combat log said

you sword spec x for 1000
you hit x for 1000

those were the only 2 lines in my combat log and sword spec shows up before the attack it came from
its happen to me more then 1 time

test it...combat log isnt always true

[ Post edited by Kurras ]

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  • 15. Re: Sword Spec on PTR fixed.   05/08/2007 12:49:39 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:

i hate to tell you this but your combat log doesnt read as it is....
your sword spec shows up before the attack its coming from in the log for some reason

ive 1 shotted a lowbie and got a proc off it from a auto attack and my combat log said

you sword spec x for 1000
you hit x for 1000

those were the only 2 lines in my combat log and sword spec shows up before the attack it came from
its happen to me more then 1 time

test it...combat log isnt always true




100% of the time while I was testing this my sword spec proc followed the move it proced after immediately in that same second.

5/8 01:20:42.328 Your Mortal Strike hits Skithian Dreadhawk for 821.
5/8 01:20:42.328 Your Sword Specialization hits Skithian Dreadhawk for 623.

5/8 01:26:56.828 You crit Urdak for 1313.
5/8 01:26:56.828 Your Sword Specialization hits Urdak for 688.

5/8 01:31:57.468 You hit Skithian Dreadhawk for 685.
5/8 01:31:57.468 Your Sword Specialization crits Skithian Dreadhawk for 1458.

5/8 01:32:51.468 Your Slam hits Skithian Windripper for 725.
5/8 01:32:51.468 Your Sword Specialization hits Skithian Windripper for 612.

5/8 01:39:03.546 Your Slam crits Skithian Dreadhawk for 1747.
5/8 01:39:03.546 Your Sword Specialization hits Skithian Dreadhawk for 702.

5/8 01:39:59.703 Your Slam hits Skithian Windripper for 1044.
5/8 01:39:59.703 Your Sword Specialization crits Skithian Windripper for 1669.

5/8 01:40:45.125 Your Pummel hits Skithian Windripper for 40.
5/8 01:40:45.140 Your Sword Specialization hits Skithian Windripper for 763.

5/8 01:41:46.062 Your Slam hits Skithian Dreadhawk for 815.
5/8 01:41:46.062 Your Sword Specialization hits Skithian Dreadhawk for 736.

5/8 01:42:12.671 Your Slam hits Skithian Windripper for 796.
5/8 01:42:12.671 Your Sword Specialization crits Skithian Windripper for 1546.

5/8 01:54:54.281 Your Hamstring hits Skithian Dreadhawk for 48.
5/8 01:54:54.281 Your Sword Specialization crits Skithian Dreadhawk for 1311.

5/8 01:54:59.515 Your Hamstring crits Skithian Dreadhawk for 105.
5/8 01:54:59.515 Your Sword Specialization hits Skithian Dreadhawk for 684.

5/8 01:56:08.921 Your Hamstring crits Skithian Windripper for 109.
5/8 01:56:08.921 Your Sword Specialization hits Skithian Windripper for 712.

The only times it was off is when I was spaming hamstring, which is why I stopped actually spamming it.

5/8 01:54:33.359 You hit Skithian Windripper for 867.
5/8 01:54:33.437 You fail to perform Hamstring: Not yet recovered.
5/8 01:54:33.640 You fail to perform Hamstring: Not yet recovered.
5/8 01:54:33.750 Your Sword Specialization hits Skithian Windripper for 778.

5/8 01:54:56.875 You hit Skithian Dreadhawk for 652.
5/8 01:54:57.078 You fail to perform Hamstring: Not yet recovered.
5/8 01:54:57.093 Your Sword Specialization hits Skithian Dreadhawk for 655.

5/8 01:56:25.000 You crit Skithian Windripper for 1562.
5/8 01:56:25.203 You fail to perform Hamstring: Not yet recovered.
5/8 01:56:25.203 Your Sword Specialization hits Skithian Windripper for 701.

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  • 16. Re: Sword Spec on PTR fixed.   05/08/2007 02:03:49 PM PDT
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nice
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  • 18. Re: Sword Spec on PTR fixed.   05/08/2007 02:25:52 PM PDT
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Wanted to add that I did a similar test this morning and noticed the same thing.

Silent buff?
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  • Dark Iron
  • 19. Re: Sword Spec on PTR fixed.   05/08/2007 02:27:34 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:


I was running combat log.


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