why not include the weapon? who cares when i made the disctinction to begin with, and the only reason it's being mentioned is because some idiot that can't read an entire post, which is particularly ridiculous when he QUOTED IT.
why even make a comparison when the conditions for getting loot are completely different save for that "bad" people can get the items?
and you should know i'm being generous when i give you a 1700 rated team as a "low rated team". you should know i'm being generous when i make the conditional a 5v5 and not a 2v2. these numbers change drastically when you factor in ratings as low as 1450, which is fairly common among scrubs,in addition to the team setup NOT being a 5v5.
anyway, if you want to blindly compare numbers simply based on the size of their numbers with no side conditions and you just pretending like tier 4 is the only possible PvE-aquired item that comes out of tier 4 raid instances for the head, boots, chest, shoulders, and gloves slot:
13 weeks vs. 25 weeks.
25 weeks for 25 people vs. 13 weeks for 5 people.
wanna say they're completely different now and shouldn't be compared as such? i'm fine with that. i doubt you are.
So 25 pvpers with 1700 rating pvp for 13 weeks and get full tiered sets? ZOMG!
And TBH, you can gain pvp items aside from arenaing.
And 1700 is not hard, even if you are a scrub pvper. I would know.
Not all of the item buffs have been implemented, the arena items apparently being some of them. As was the case last week when some of the tier set items had been buffed, but not others. The public test realm (PTR) patches are implementing data as we make changes and won't always contain the entire spectrum of intended changes all of the time.
The arena items I've checked don't appear to have received any changes yet. Other items may not reflect their intended values on the current PTR as well.
Q u o t e: On the PTR, Karazhan loot was giving +15 item levels on many items... Gladiator weapons are still slightly nerfed.
So whatever happened to:
Gladiator gear will be comparable to some of the top available PvE gear?
That was Blizzard's stance on it, and before 2.1 that was the way it looked.
Now on the PTR, the Gladiator's Shanker is equal to the Emerald Ripper (Shanker got nerfed, KZ loot got buffed).
Malchazeen, a relatively easy drop to get out of the easiest raid instance in Burning Crusade (now 91DPS) now easily beats what was supposed to be the "best of the best" pvp gear.
Looking to be an offensive powerhouse in pvp? Better hope you got a spot in your guild's raid after 2.1
I understand that Blizzard has said that "more changes will come", but since they have already nerfed Gladiator weapons... I hope to god that Blizzard does something to compensate gladiator's for this new change or else KZ set > Gladiator set for pvp.
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Q u o t e: Not all of the item buffs have been implemented, the arena items apparently being some of them. As was the case last week when some of the tier set items had been buffed, but not others. The PTR patches are implementing data as we make changes and won't always contain the entire spectrum of intended changes all of the time.
The arena items I've checked don't appear to have received their intended buff yet, but they will be increased to keep in line with the tier sets as they were previously.
How about those epic fist weapons crafted by jewelcrafting? Those patterns coming in soon?
Q u o t e: Not all of the item buffs have been implemented, the arena items apparently being some of them. As was the case last week when some of the tier set items had been buffed, but not others. The PTR patches are implementing data as we make changes and won't always contain the entire spectrum of intended changes all of the time.
The arena items I've checked don't appear to have received their intended buff yet, but they will be increased to keep in line with the tier sets as they were previously.
Can't anyone be happy?
People who can't/won't raid have the option to battle other players to be comperable to others that do by endeavoring in another aspect of this game.. PvP... some of those PvPers also raid. It sounds like it all fits and is pretty good as long ast they keep pvp viable enough with raid through manipulating the stats to fit the goal reward. ex. raid gear, ex. pvp gear
Q u o t e: Not all of the item buffs have been implemented, the arena items apparently being some of them. As was the case last week when some of the tier set items had been buffed, but not others. The public test realm (PTR) patches are implementing data as we make changes and won't always contain the entire spectrum of intended changes all of the time.
The arena items I've checked don't appear to have received their intended buff yet, but they will be increased to keep more or less in line with the tier sets as they were previously. Other items may not reflect their intended values on the current PTR as well.
Um ok..
When does the arena set come out thats equal to teir 5?
You love the time=reward in this game don't you? Ibet you touch yourself while you grind.
Why should everything have to do with time and not skill which pvp obviously does, completely. as apposed to huge grindfests like keying and running raids over and over and over and over and over and over and over............ and over again.. then over and overand over
FOR 6 hours at a time!
Q u o t e: Not all of the item buffs have been implemented, the arena items apparently being some of them. As was the case last week when some of the tier set items had been buffed, but not others. The public test realm (PTR) patches are implementing data as we make changes and won't always contain the entire spectrum of intended changes all of the time.
The arena items I've checked don't appear to have received their intended buff yet, but they will be increased to keep more or less in line with the tier sets as they were previously. Other items may not reflect their intended values on the current PTR as well.
I have both the Shanker and the Ripper. Blew all of my arena points on the shanker and now it is equivalent to an item that I have had banked for so long now? Not too mention the fact that I spent over 500g's getting Mongoose put on it.
So I have nothing to show for my 2600 points and an enchant that could have gone on a dagger that I have had for well over 6 weeks now. I would have picked up the gear had I known.
Really bad form and very disappointing. I do hope those weapons get buffed...
