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  • 120. Re: devs... you guys are idi.....   05/10/2007 04:35:02 AM PDT
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LMAO!!!
When I was pvp healing, I always used chain heal. I loved it!! Then my brother and friend went resto shaman and said "eww, why would we use chain heal" and never used it.
I always tried to tell me to, but they never listined.

Glad to see you share my opinion on this matter.

Chain heal ftw, imo. :)


40 yard, bouncing yellow lazer beams?
I mean...how else can you say "Winner."

Not only does it help the primary objective to any situation which is : "HP > 0 = Win"
But...
It's a freekin Lazer Beam.

IMMA CHARGIN MAH LAZER
SHOOP DAH WHOOP!

Primary DPS Shaman. - What are you?
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  • Arthas
  • 121. Re: devs... you guys are idi.....   05/10/2007 04:35:41 AM PDT
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Oh crap, almost forgot!


WHAT ABOUT THE TOTEM UI!!!
AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

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  • 122. Re: devs... you guys are idi.....   05/10/2007 04:35:55 AM PDT
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LMAO!!!
When I was pvp healing, I always used chain heal. I loved it!! Then my brother and friend went resto shaman and said "eww, why would we use chain heal" and never used it.
I always tried to tell me to, but they never listined.

Glad to see you share my opinion on this matter.

Chain heal ftw, imo. :)


Yes Chain Heal is FTW! :)

I love chain heal it puts me way up there on that healing meter :)

I love out healing priests/paladins in T4 healing gear just cause i'm spamming chain heal and slamming pots.

Oh Talasite owl ftw too imo.
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  • Stormscale
  • 123. Re: devs... you guys are idi.....   05/10/2007 04:37:09 AM PDT
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Bah, you guys posted the same time I did. There's my post on page 6 at the bottom.

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  • Arthas
  • 124. Re: devs... you guys are idi.....   05/10/2007 04:40:20 AM PDT
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Cmooooooooooooooooon Totem UI!
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  • 125. Re: devs... you guys are idi.....   05/10/2007 04:43:19 AM PDT
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NO ONE I mean NO ONE chain heals in pvp. Even restoration shamans.

Stop speaking in absolutes. The world becomes easier when you do so.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
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  • Stormscale
  • 126. Re: devs... you guys are idi.....   05/10/2007 04:43:57 AM PDT
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I chain heal in pvp, and I'm enh.

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  • 127. Re: devs... you guys are idi.....   05/10/2007 04:44:34 AM PDT
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Stop speaking in absolutes. The world becomes easier when you do so.

isnt that an absolute?
anyways, i digress
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  • Stormscale
  • 130. Re: devs... you guys are idi.....   05/10/2007 04:46:03 AM PDT
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no one saw my post? :(


Q u o t e:


On that note, and to bring up another conversation. Tseric said that he saw an ele shaman put out a lot of damage while having a lot of mana left over. See, Shamans lack any kind of mana regen (mana sprinkle and specing for mana tide aren't acceptable), we NEED mana left over. That's how our class works. Every 2 minutes (that's 5x per 10 min raid boss fight, for you slow people) we are rebuffing our group, while any other buff lasts at least 10-15 minutes. No other class has to rebuff mid-fight.

Flametongue: 243 (mana cost) x 5 (times to cast, per 10min fight) = 1,215

Grace of Air: 232 x 5 = 1,160

Strength of Earth: 225 x 5 = 1,260

Healing Stream: 71 x 5 = 355

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Total: 3,635 (4400 if I were ele, casting fire totems)

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This being MORE than half of my mana (being enh) just rebuffing my party, during any normal raid boss fight. Elemental shamans are even worse off, fire totems cost a LOT more mana than my weapon totems do.

How am I supposed to fulfill my spec, and spot in the raid, if I'm going oom rebuffing people? How am I supposed to keep a spot in the raid, when any class can perform any task that I perform, better than I can? Paladins buffs are individually better than mine, last longer, they can off heal better than me, and they have other utilities that will easily make them apt to fill my spot (individually casting salv on the DPS, and allowing the tank to not be affect, BIG PLUS RIGHT THERE)

A mage can pew pew, far better than I can. A rogue can melee better than me, and survive in melee range. And a ret paladin can offer more healing than I ever could, off spec.


See man, if we have no mana, if we're going oom, we're incapable of fulfilling any of our required duties in a raid. If my totems are not up, I'm a gimped dps not doing anything to help support my group. It's essential that I have mana to do my job.



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  • Arthas
  • 131. Re: devs... you guys are idi.....   05/10/2007 04:46:21 AM PDT
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Stop speaking in absolutes. The world becomes easier when you do so.


He lies Tseric! He LIES!!!! *sucks *##@*

Now about that totem UI? ^^
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  • 132. Re: devs... you guys are idi.....   05/10/2007 04:46:58 AM PDT
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Oh crap, almost forgot!


WHAT ABOUT THE TOTEM UI!!!
AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD AMAGAWD WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!



Because the UI work load is longer than anyone wants to think about. We're dealing with mass-appeal items first, like in-game VOIP, Guild banks, Additional base UI, etc.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
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  • 134. Re: devs... you guys are idi.....   05/10/2007 04:48:05 AM PDT
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The real issue is that while the class may have short comings, you insist that everyone agrees with exactly what your opinion is. You speak in absolutes to strengthen your argument. You fail to recognize that some people perform well with the class, or that others still have fun with the class. You think everyone thinks like you. You think everyone agrees with you on exactly every point you make.

And from your post, you don't really make any specific points. You don't address the fact that Enhancement in PvP is difficult because of melee attacks trying to keep range with a target. You don't talk about totems having limited range, in arenas or dungeons, being a challenge. You don't talk about being 'pidgeon-holed' into Resto spec, as the strongest tree of the three.

You generalize and assume everyone agrees with you. Gray areas are completely irrelevant in your stance.

I recommend making your argument more than ad populum.



You should go play in traffic. And take the worthless dev team with you. This is World of warcraft and what we got was a dumbed down everquest clone. Instead of listening to what people suggest or what(within reason of course) you ignore people and mock them.

Why can't a hybrid reach the same level as a pure class? Who cares everyone should be able to have fun with their spec and class. But you have the devs and yourself saying "Well that's a solo spec". So I have to ask. If this is an MMO which pretty much means playing with others why are there solo specs?

Why are promises made and yet never kept? Shaman were told before the expansion they would become damage dealers in groups. Now the ones already in raid epics may not see much of a change. But what about the others? Why is it you come here says "Hey shaman you will be dps in groups or can be if you wish" Then it gets taken away?

I don't understand why everytime blizzard buffs something within the next 3 patches they nerf it. It's called the test realm use it and listen to what people say for once. The only classes that got buffs and really haven't been nerfed are rogues and warlocks. Hybrids should be able to do more then heal. Also their gear should let them be hybrids. Enhance shaman gear should have all the melee stats and some casting stats.

In short blizzard ruined Warcraft, these numb skulls designing the game are clueless. And i'm glad my account went on the 7th.

P.S. Ter!%%* read what people are saying. Oh and fix your forums my account went on the 7th of may yet I can still log in and post.

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  • 135. Re: devs... you guys are idi.....   05/10/2007 04:48:25 AM PDT
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what does VOIP stand for?


I was actually about to ask that myself.
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  • 136. Re: devs... you guys are idi.....   05/10/2007 04:48:37 AM PDT
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Q u o t e:
what does VOIP stand for?

Voice Over Internet Protocol.

Luffs.
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  • 137. Re: devs... you guys are idi.....   05/10/2007 04:48:50 AM PDT
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ill post this here too, since you're around. people shouldnt have to spec something other than enhancement to be viable in pvp. shamans arent hunters. playing enhancement is extremely different from the other 2 specs, and as a result has its own fanbase, or whatever. people who enjoy enh may not enjoy elemental.
And since Enhancement "lends itself to a leveling build" a majority of Shamans will enjoy the Shaman as a dual wielding berserker more than an Elemental caster. Blizzard's developers should cater to that because both specs are literally two different classes altogether.

Druids are in the same boat yet all three of their trees are VERY capable in both PvE and PvP.

Paladins and Warriors are both melee classes, and Paladins have spell support. They don't have a purely "spellcasting" tree like our Elemental tree or a Druid's Balance tree. They have a tanking tree which only does anything for PvE since taking damage isn't the focus of PvP. So really it isn't an issue that they can't use Prot in PvP and it is completely unrelated to Enhancement's fallibility in PvP.

http://ctprofiles.net/354838
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  • 138. Re: devs... you guys are idi.....   05/10/2007 04:48:52 AM PDT
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Because the UI work load is longer than anyone wants to think about. We're dealing with mass-appeal items first, like in-game VOIP, Guild banks, Additional base UI, etc.


Whoa, that stuff sounds hot, do you guys have any boards or such where you list your current projects? I would really really like to know.
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  • Stormscale
  • 139. Re: devs... you guys are idi.....   05/10/2007 04:49:06 AM PDT
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Because the UI work load is longer than anyone wants to think about. We're dealing with mass-appeal items first, like in-game VOIP, Guild banks, Additional base UI, etc.


There are several totem UI's that are already made, Call of Elements, Totemus, and timers like Got Wood? (funny name, I know, excellent addon though)

There is no reason why Blizzard cannot ask the author for permission to use his work, rework it to make it fit their tastes, and add it into the Blizzard interface.

Sorry, but I find that answer unacceptable.

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