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  • 0. Mage Talents STRIKE! vote now!   09/18/2008 05:46:35 PM PDT
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Hello to all Mages!

Let's hear it for the new "Burnout" Talent!
I am glad Blizzard finally gave Fire Mages a "Ruin / Ice Shards" type of talent. 50% crit damaga is jsut fine even tho we do not receive the 100% that warlocks (and now Shadow Priests...) receive.

However.. the Increased mana cost of Critical strikes by 5% is a little "meh"
We as Mages must complain our hearts out untill Blizzard changes it! "Mages have mana gems and evocation.." Warlocks have Life tap GG.

/complain remove 5% mana drain from Burnout! :D
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  • 2. Re: Mage Talents STRIKE! vote now!   09/18/2008 05:58:31 PM PDT
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The increased damage will be well worth the 5 percent mana. However it makes little sense to give you a penalty for a talent in my opinion.

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  • Vek'nilash
  • 3. Re: Mage Talents STRIKE! vote now!   09/18/2008 06:04:23 PM PDT
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Rank 14 Fireball costs like 448 mana with talents.

5% x 448 = 22

22 mana is burned on a fireball crit.

That's not that horrible.

What can men do against such reckless hate?
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  • Duskwood
  • 4. Re: Mage Talents STRIKE! vote now!   09/18/2008 06:07:45 PM PDT
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Rank 14 Fireball costs like 448 mana with talents.

5% x 448 = 22

22 mana is burned on a fireball crit.

That's not that horrible.


It adds up really fast when you keep critting over and over....
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  • 5. Re: Mage Talents STRIKE! vote now!   09/18/2008 06:09:07 PM PDT
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Rank 14 Fireball costs like 448 mana with talents.

5% x 448 = 22

22 mana is burned on a fireball crit.

That's not that horrible.


You not helping Javadocs!

STILL for being 45-50 point talents why penalize us at all? "Ruin" (100%) is like 21 talents if i remember correctly i dont reall feel like going and checking it out..
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  • Duskwood
  • 6. Re: Mage Talents STRIKE! vote now!   09/18/2008 06:10:59 PM PDT
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*flashbacks of damage tax*

Yeah... Yeah they'll remove it..... find a happy place.... HAPPY PLACE
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  • 7. Re: Mage Talents STRIKE! vote now!   09/18/2008 06:15:10 PM PDT
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what you are forgetting, divinehand, is ignite. ignite is our ruin and ice shards. in fact, it is better. it gave us 210% crit bonus. burn out on top of that is just icing on the cake

burn out + ignite = 245% damage on crits.
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  • Jubei'Thos
  • 8. Re: Mage Talents STRIKE! vote now!   09/18/2008 06:40:47 PM PDT
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Yeah man fire mages have totally been needing something that added bonus damage to crits for a long time.
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  • Tichondrius
  • 9. Re: Mage Talents STRIKE! vote now!   09/18/2008 06:41:41 PM PDT
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what you are forgetting, divinehand, is ignite. ignite is our ruin and ice shards. in fact, it is better. it gave us 210% crit bonus. burn out on top of that is just icing on the cake

burn out + ignite = 245% damage on crits.

qft

also, take into account Master of Elements refunds 30% of a crits base cost

[ Post edited by Abakus ]

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  • Vek'nilash
  • 10. Re: Mage Talents STRIKE! vote now!   09/18/2008 06:46:07 PM PDT
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You not helping Javadocs!

STILL for being 45-50 point talents why penalize us at all? "Ruin" (100%) is like 21 talents if i remember correctly i dont reall feel like going and checking it out..

lol. I don't like it either, but it's not Fire's problem at the moment. Hot Streak's Pyro is the problem. You use too much mana using 500 mana insta Pyros every 10-15 seconds.

What can men do against such reckless hate?
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  • Sisters of Elune
  • 11. Re: Mage Talents STRIKE! vote now!   09/18/2008 07:19:26 PM PDT
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Clearly overpowered. One fireball crit will kill someone in PvP.
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  • Malfurion
  • 12. Re: Mage Talents STRIKE! vote now!   09/18/2008 07:23:02 PM PDT
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Devinehand, welcome to my extensive ignore list.

Your own, personal, Jiza.
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  • 13. Re: Mage Talents STRIKE! vote now!   09/18/2008 07:32:38 PM PDT
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IMO burnout should make it so the crits require 5% LESS mana or even more than 5%. It would help while pvping as fire.
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  • Aegwynn
  • 14. Re: Mage Talents STRIKE! vote now!   09/18/2008 08:13:01 PM PDT
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Firstly, ignite gives fire crits a 40% damage increase, just over time. And while I like the idea of giving fire even more crit power (up to 90% it seems, including Ignite?) they did just fine with only ignite, since they could crit so fast, so often. So, having a mage, I like how OP it is, but I also acknowledge that it is OP.
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  • 15. Re: Mage Talents STRIKE! vote now!   09/18/2008 08:16:44 PM PDT
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Devinehand, welcome to my extensive ignore list.


You seem uptight.
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  • 17. Re: Mage Talents STRIKE! vote now!   09/19/2008 12:19:32 AM PDT
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You seem uptight.

Watch it Nevertras, he may put you on his ignore list too! Then like, he wouldn't be able to read what you post. I'm sure you don't want that.
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  • 18. Re: Mage Talents STRIKE! vote now!   09/19/2008 05:02:23 AM PDT
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Devinehand, welcome to my extensive ignore list.


LAWL who are you? That's right... I DON'T care who you are Kthnxbye <3
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  • 19. Re: Mage Talents STRIKE! vote now!   09/19/2008 06:39:39 AM PDT
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Holy cow! Nevertras, how you been man?!
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