Welcome to the Research Thread that will feed into the Proven TC Stuff thread ( http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109841969 ). I will no longer maintain the summary in this thread, instead it will be in the proven TC Stuff thread. This one already has a lot of good info in it, so I figured keeping it in the public view would be good.

If you would like to contribute anything to this thread, please post a link to a /combatlog of what you were doing, along with any pertinent information about your gear / spec etc at the time. This is the system of documentation I'm going to be migrating myself towards as time goes on for any future research I perform. It makes it cleaner and easier to back check later on.

As per my norm, please feel free to challenge my findings, be prepared to either justify it by analyzing my data or by providing data of your own.

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Frostfirebolt Coefficient Test
Credit: Beta Mage wishing to remain nameless at this time
Patch: Beta 3.0.2 Build 8905
Target: Dun Morogh Wolves and Troggs

Spec: Blank

Level: 80

Fire +damage: 1508
Frost +damage: 1508
FFB Tooltip Damage: 722 - 838
Method: Cast FFB until a good range based on tooltip damage output has been achieved, solve for coefficient

Combatlog: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/ffbcoeff_8905/WoWCombatLog.txt
Parse Script: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/ffbcoeff_8905/parse.pl
Parse Script Output: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/ffbcoeff_8905/output.txt

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Q u o t e:
Coefficient calculation for Frostfire Bolt

Tooltip Min: 722
Tooltip Max: 838
Plus Damage: 1508

Datapoints: 231
Min Observed: 2014
Max Observed: 2130
Expected Spread: 838 - 722 = 116
Observed Spread: 2130 - 2014 = 116

Coefficient Formula: (Observed Value - Base Value) / Plus Damage
Coefficient by Min: (2014 - 722) / 1508 = 0.856763925729443
Coefficient by Max: (2130 - 838) / 1508 = 0.856763925729443

Proposed Formula: (3 / 3.5) = 0.857142857142857
Delta from Min Coefficient: abs(0.856763925729443 - 0.857142857142857) = 0.000378931413414163
Delta from Max Coefficient: abs(0.856763925729443 - 0.857142857142857) = 0.000378931413414163

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Arcane Barrage Coefficient Test
Credit: Beta Mage wishing to remain nameless at this time
Patch: Beta 3.0.2 Build 8905
Target: Dun Morogh Wolves and Troggs
Spec: Arcane to Abar, skipping Arcane Concentration, Arcane Instability, Mind Mastery, Spell Power

Level: 70

Arcane +damage: 877
Abar tooltip damage: 709 - 865
Method: Cast Abar until a good range based on tooltip damage output has been achieved, solve for coefficient

Combatlog: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/abarcoeff_8905/WoWCombatLog.txt
Parse Script: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/abarcoeff_8905/parse.pl
Parse Script Output: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/abarcoeff_8905/output.txt

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Q u o t e:
Coefficient calculation for Arcane Barrage

Tooltip Min: 709
Tooltip Max: 865
Plus Damage: 877

Datapoints: 638
Min Observed: 1460
Max Observed: 1617
Expected Spread: 865 - 709 = 156
Observed Spread: 1617 - 1460 = 157

Coefficient Formula: (Observed Value - Base Value) / Plus Damage
Coefficient by Min: (1460 - 709) / 877 = 0.856328392246294
Coefficient by Max: (1617 - 865) / 877 = 0.857468643101482

Proposed Formula: (3 / 3.5) = 0.857142857142857
Delta from Min Coefficient: abs(0.856328392246294 - 0.857142857142857) = 0.000814464896562894
Delta from Max Coefficient: abs(0.857468643101482 - 0.857142857142857) = 0.000325785958625202

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Pyroblast Coefficient Test
Credit: Beta Mage wishing to remain nameless at this time
Patch: 3.0.2 Build 8905
Targets: Dun Morogh Wolves and Troggs
Spec: Arcane to Arcane Meditation skipping Arcane Concentration and Focus Magic, 5/5 Imp Fireball, 5/5 Ignite, Pyroblast
Level: 70
Fire +damage: 877
Pyro Tooltip Damage: 939 - 1191
Method: Cast Pyro until a good range based on tooltip damage output has been achieved, solve for coefficient

Combatlog: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/pyrocoeff_8905/WoWCombatLog.txt
Parse Script: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/pyrocoeff_8905/parse.pl
Parse Script Output: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/pyrocoeff_8905/output.txt

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Q u o t e:
Coefficient calculation for Pyroblast

Tooltip Min: 939
Tooltip Max: 1191
Plus Damage: 877

Datapoints: 210
Min Observed: 1947
Max Observed: 2199
Expected Spread: 1191 - 939 = 252
Observed Spread: 2199 - 1947 = 252

Coefficient Formula: (Observed Value - Base Value) / Plus Damage
Coefficient by Min: (1947 - 939) / 877 = 1.14937286202965
Coefficient by Max: (2199 - 1191) / 877 = 1.14937286202965

Proposed Coefficient: 1.15
Delta from Min Coefficient: abs(1.14937286202965 - 1.15) = 0.000627137970353298
Delta from Max Coefficient: abs(1.14937286202965 - 1.15) = 0.000627137970353298

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Burnout Crit Gain Test
Credit: Beta Mage wishing to remain nameless at this time
Patch: Beta 3.0.2 Build 8905
Target: Dun Morogh Wolves and Troggs
Spec: Fire to Burnout avoiding Firepower, Playing with Fire, Molten Fury and Ignite

Level: 80

Fire +damage: 1458
Frost +damage: 1458
FFB Tooltip Damage: 722 - 838
Methodology: Cast FFB until enough crits have been gathered to theoretically identify a good range for crits, solve for the gain vs observed hits and expected hits.

Combat Log: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/burnoutgain_8905/WoWCombatLog.txt
Parse Script: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/burnoutgain_8905/parse.pl
Parse Script Output: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/burnoutgain_8905/output.txt

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Q u o t e:
Crit gain of 5/5 Burnout on Frostfire Bolt

Tooltip Min: 722
Tooltip Max: 838
Plus Damage: 1458

Expected Min Hit: (722 + (3.0 / 3.5) * 1458) = 1971.71428571429
Expected Max Hit: (838 + (3.0 / 3.5) * 1458) = 2087.71428571429

Non-Crit Datapoints: 113
Min Observed: 1972
Max Observed: 2087
Expected Spread: 838 - 722 = 116
Observed Spread: 2087 - 1972 = 115
Delta from Min Expected: abs(1971.71428571429 - 1972) = 0.285714285714448
Delta from Max Expected: abs(2087.71428571429 - 2087) = 0.714285714285325

Crit Datapoints: 79
Min Crit Observed: 3461
Max Crit Observed: 3654
Burnout Gain by Observed Min: (3461 / 1972) = 1.75507099391481
Burnout Gain by Observed Max: (3654 / 2087) = 1.85294117647059
Burnout Gain by Expected Min: (3461 / 1971.71428571429) = 1.75532531517171
Burnout Gain by Expected Max: (3654 / 2087.71428571429) = 1.75023949637334

Proposed Formula: 1.0 + ( 0.5 * ( 1 + ( 0.1 * Points in Burnout) ) )
With 5/5 Burnout: 1.0 + ( 0.5 * ( 1 + ( 0.5) ) ) = 1.75
Delta from Observed Min Gain: abs(1.75507099391481 - 1.75) = 0.00507099391480725
Delta from Observed Max Gain: abs(1.85294117647059 - 1.75) = 0.102941176470588
Delta from Expected Min Gain: abs(1.75532531517171 - 1.75) = 0.00532531517171431
Delta from Expected Max Gain: abs(1.75023949637334 - 1.75) = 0.000239496373340975

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Burnout + Ice Shards Crit Gain Test
Credit: Beta Mage wishing to remain nameless at this time
Patch: Beta 3.0.2 Build 8905
Target: Dun Morogh Wolves and Troggs
Spec: Fire to Burnout avoiding Firepower, Playing with Fire, Molten Fury and Ignite, Frost to Ice Shards

Level: 80

Fire +damage: 1458
Frost +damage: 1458
FFB Tooltip Damage: 722 - 838
Methodology: Cast FFB until enough crits have been gathered to theoretically identify a good range for crits, solve for the gain vs observed hits and expected hits.

Combat Log: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/burnoutshardsgain_8905/WoWCombatLog.txt
Parse Script: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/burnoutshardsgain_8905/parse.pl
Parse Script Output: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/burnoutshardsgain_8905/output.txt

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Q u o t e:
Crit gain of 5/5 Burnout + 5/5 Ice Shards on Frostfire Bolt

Tooltip Min: 722
Tooltip Max: 838
Plus Damage: 1458

Expected Min Hit: (722 + (3.0 / 3.5) * 1458) = 1971.71428571429
Expected Max Hit: (838 + (3.0 / 3.5) * 1458) = 2087.71428571429

Non-Crit Datapoints: 163
Min Observed: 1972
Max Observed: 2087
Expected Spread: 838 - 722 = 116
Observed Spread: 2087 - 1972 = 115
Delta from Min Expected: abs(1971.71428571429 - 1972) = 0.285714285714448
Delta from Max Expected: abs(2087.71428571429 - 2087) = 0.714285714285325

Crit Datapoints: 95
Min Crit Observed: 4436
Max Crit Observed: 4697
Burnout + Shards Gain by Observed Min: (4436 / 1972) = 2.24949290060852
Burnout + Shards Gain by Observed Max: (4697 / 2087) = 2.38184584178499
Burnout + Shards Gain by Expected Min: (4436 / 1971.71428571429) = 2.24981886683089
Burnout + Shards Gain by Expected Max: (4697 / 2087.71428571429) = 2.2498289311619

Proposed Formula: 1.0 + ( 0.5 * ( 1 + ( 0.1 * Points in Burnout + 0.2 * Points in Ice Shards) ) )
With 5/5 Burnout + 5/5 Ice Shards: 1.0 + ( 0.5 * ( 1 + ( 0.5 + 1.0 ) ) ) = 2.25
Delta from Observed Min Gain: abs(2.24949290060852 - 2.25) = 0.000507099391480637
Delta from Observed Max Gain: abs(2.38184584178499 - 2.25) = 0.13184584178499
Delta from Expected Min Gain: abs(2.24981886683089 - 2.25) = 0.000181133169105951
Delta from Expected Max Gain: abs(2.2498289311619 - 2.25) = 0.00017106883810003

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Burnout + Ice Shards + Ignite Crit Gain Test
Credit: Beta Mage wishing to remain nameless at this time
Patch: Beta 3.0.2 Build 8905
Target: Dr. Boom in Netherstorm
Spec: Fire to Burnout avoiding Firepower, Playing with Fire, Molten Fury but including Ignite, Frost to Ice Shards

Level: 80

Methodology: Cast FFB until a crit is achieved, observe ignite damage done for normal 1.4 modifier.

CombatLog: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/burnoutshardsignitegain_8905/WoWCombatLog.txt
Parse Script: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/burnoutshardsignitegain_8905/parse.pl
Parse Script Output: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/burnoutshardsignitegain_8905/output.txt

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Q u o t e:
Crit gain of 5/5 Burnout + 5/5 Ice Shards + 5/5 Ignite on Frostfire Bolt

Crit Datapoints: 1
Min Crit Observed:
Max Crit Observed: 4634
Min Ignite Tick Observed: 926
Max Ignite Tick Observed: 927

Expected Ignite Tick: (4634 * 0.4 ) / 2 = 926.8
Delta from Min Tick: abs(926 - 926.8) = 0.800000000000068
Delta from Max Tick: abs(927 - 926.8) = 0.199999999999932

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Trading beta keys for A's in classes. I like it.

Nothing was said about getting As

Well if it's a math or stats class he's golden.

See above for reference.

This is awesome stuff. Keep up the good work. I look forward to see the frost stuff.

Uh oh. Murlocs in Northrend are now cowering in fear of their impending doom.

been waiting to see co-E on ArcBar...was told it was around 15%

edit: re-read tool tip

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Q u o t e:
Uh oh. Murlocs in Northrend are now cowering in fear of their impending doom.

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You know, I'm actually kind of nervous about that... With the new achievements system recording how many of each type of mob we kill for our 'prefered kill type'... I wonder if that might end up creating dynamic quests in the future where if you've slaughtered an excess of X type something happens. If so, I'm in trouble with Wolves and Troggs



And if anyone has any questions on how stuff works feel free to post them and I'll post the results of a test about it.

mirror image....need to know everything. previous posts have been a bit foggy in their descriptions

how does the new spirit work...and do our crafted items get a bucket load of spirit on them or what?

bubblypie

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Q u o t e:
mirror image....need to know everything. previous posts have been a bit foggy in their descriptions

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Okay, so here is what I think is pertinent, any additional information you'd like to know?

- Scales with gear at all
- Miss chance against a 83
- health / mana pools influences
- damage range with / without gear
- any talents increase their damage
- benefits from on-target debuffs
- spell rotation selections
- swapping, how is it decided, can it be avoided, what does it result in

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Q u o t e:
how does the new spirit work...and do our crafted items get a bucket load of spirit on them or what?

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Clarify, you mean what is the level 80 mana regen formula, and how does the new regen work? (Since its not a every 2 second tick anymore, looks like it may be every 1/2 second or so, I haven't timed it yet).

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AoE Caps Test
Patch: Beta 3.0.2 Build 8962
Target: Approximately 1/3 of Deadmines per spell
Spec: Fire to Blastwave, Dragon's Breath and Living Bomb, initially avoiding firepower / playing with fire, later speccing into them

Level: 80

Methodology: Gather ridiculous amounts of targets in Deadmines, cast AoE spells at them, look for the effects of the cap and calculate the cap.

Combatlog: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/aoecaps_8962_2/WoWCombatLog.txt (Small version, has only SPELL_DAMAGE events, 277 KB)
http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/aoecaps_8962_2/WoWCombatLog2.txt (BIG FULL version, 4.2 MB)
Parse Script: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/aoecaps_8962_2/parse.pl
Parse Script Output: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/aoecaps_8962_2/output.txt (long output)
http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/aoecaps_8962_2/output2.txt (short output)

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Q u o t e:
Arcane Explosion number 4 hit 58 targets for 635 each cap calcs at 36830.
Arcane Explosion number 6 hit 74 targets for 507 each cap calcs at 37518.
Arcane Explosion number 7 hit 55 targets for 682 each cap calcs at 37510.
Cone of Cold number 1 hit 55 targets for 682 each cap calcs at 37510.
Cone of Cold number 2 hit 49 targets for 765 each cap calcs at 37485.
Cone of Cold number 3 hit 69 targets for 543 each cap calcs at 37467.
Dragon's Breath number 2 hit 56 targets for 669 each cap calcs at 37464.
Dragon's Breath number 3 hit 76 targets for 493 each cap calcs at 37468.
Blast Wave number 1 hit 55 targets for 682 each cap calcs at 37510.
Blast Wave number 2 hit 57 targets for 658 each cap calcs at 37506.
Frost Nova number 2 hit 70 targets for 535 each cap calcs at 37450.
Frost Nova number 6 hit 64 targets for 585 each cap calcs at 37440.
Flamestrike number 4 hit 71 targets for 1056 each cap calcs at 74976.
Flamestrike number 6 hit 54 targets for 1389 each cap calcs at 75006.
Flamestrike number 7 hit 56 targets for 1339 each cap calcs at 74984.

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Blizzard / Living Bomb Cap Test
Patch: Beta 3.0.2 Build 8962
Target: Approximately 1/3 of Deadmines per spell
Spec: Fire to Blastwave, Dragon's Breath and Living Bomb

Level: 80

Methodology: Gather ridiculous amounts of targets in Deadmines, cast LB / Blizz on them, record damage and differences from normal tick values

Combatlog: PENDING
Parse Script: PENDING
Parse Script Output: PENDING

(This one will be out tonight with an edit. I've got the data, I hand-jammed the math, I need sleep)

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AoE Coefficients Test
Patch: Beta 3.0.2 Build 8962
Target: Zombies from the Terrokar quest "The Dread Relic" ( http://thottbot.com/q10877 )
Spec: Fire to Blastwave and Dragon's Breath, avoid firepower and playing with fire
Level: 80
+damage: 1508
Spell Tooltip Ranges: See parse script output

Methodology: Repeat the opening of the chest over and over, nuke the zombies with the AoE spells (ensuring Blastwave and Dragon's Breath don't cap out, since they can at 29 targets), solve for coefficients.

Combatlog: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/aoecoeff_8962/WoWCombatLog.txt (Small version, only has SPELL_DAMAGE events, 731k)
http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/aoecoeff_8962/WoWCombatLog2.txt (BIG FULL version, 4.4 Meg)
Parse Script: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/aoecoeff_8962/parse.pl
Parse Script Output: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/research/wotlk_beta/aoecoeff_8962/output.txt

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Q u o t e:
Coefficient calculation for Arcane Explosion

Tooltip Min: 538
Tooltip Max: 582
Plus Damage: 1508

Datapoints: 214
Min Observed: 861
Max Observed: 905
Expected Spread: 582 - 538 = 44
Observed Spread: 905 - 861 = 44

Coefficient Formula: (Observed Value - Base Value) / Plus Damage
Coefficient by Min: (861 - 538) / 1508 = 0.214190981432361
Coefficient by Max: (905 - 582) / 1508 = 0.214190981432361

Proposed Formula: (1.5 / 3.5) / 2 = 0.214285714285714
Delta from Min Coefficient: abs(0.214190981432361 - 0.214285714285714) = 9.47328533535408e-05
Delta from Max Coefficient: abs(0.214190981432361 - 0.214285714285714) = 9.47328533535408e-05



Coefficient calculation for Cone of Cold

Tooltip Min: 709
Tooltip Max: 776
Plus Damage: 1508

Datapoints: 955
Min Observed: 1032
Max Observed: 1099
Expected Spread: 776 - 709 = 67
Observed Spread: 1099 - 1032 = 67

Coefficient Formula: (Observed Value - Base Value) / Plus Damage
Coefficient by Min: (1032 - 709) / 1508 = 0.214190981432361
Coefficient by Max: (1099 - 776) / 1508 = 0.214190981432361

Proposed Formula: (1.5 / 3.5) / 2 = 0.214285714285714
Delta from Min Coefficient: abs(0.214190981432361 - 0.214285714285714) = 9.47328533535408e-05
Delta from Max Coefficient: abs(0.214190981432361 - 0.214285714285714) = 9.47328533535408e-05



Coefficient calculation for Blast Wave

Tooltip Min: 1047
Tooltip Max: 1233
Plus Damage: 1508

Datapoints: 700
Min Observed: 1338
Max Observed: 1524
Expected Spread: 1233 - 1047 = 186
Observed Spread: 1524 - 1338 = 186

Coefficient Formula: (Observed Value - Base Value) / Plus Damage
Coefficient by Min: (1338 - 1047) / 1508 = 0.192970822281167
Coefficient by Max: (1524 - 1233) / 1508 = 0.192970822281167

Proposed Formula: ((1.5 / 3.5) * .90) / 2 = 0.192857142857143
Delta from Min Coefficient: abs(0.192970822281167 - 0.192857142857143) = 0.000113679424024266
Delta from Max Coefficient: abs(0.192970822281167 - 0.192857142857143) = 0.000113679424024266



Coefficient calculation for Dragon's Breath

Tooltip Min: 1101
Tooltip Max: 1279
Plus Damage: 1508

Datapoints: 573
Min Observed: 1392
Max Observed: 1570
Expected Spread: 1279 - 1101 = 178
Observed Spread: 1570 - 1392 = 178

Coefficient Formula: (Observed Value - Base Value) / Plus Damage
Coefficient by Min: (1392 - 1101) / 1508 = 0.192970822281167
Coefficient by Max: (1570 - 1279) / 1508 = 0.192970822281167

Proposed Formula: ((1.5 / 3.5) * .90) / 2 = 0.192857142857143
Delta from Min Coefficient: abs(0.192970822281167 - 0.192857142857143) = 0.000113679424024266
Delta from Max Coefficient: abs(0.192970822281167 - 0.192857142857143) = 0.000113679424024266



Coefficient calculation for Frost Nova

Tooltip Min: 369
Tooltip Max: 419
Plus Damage: 1508

Datapoints: 232
Min Observed: 659
Max Observed: 709
Expected Spread: 419 - 369 = 50
Observed Spread: 709 - 659 = 50

Coefficient Formula: (Observed Value - Base Value) / Plus Damage
Coefficient by Min: (659 - 369) / 1508 = 0.192307692307692
Coefficient by Max: (709 - 419) / 1508 = 0.192307692307692

Proposed Formula: ((1.5 / 3.5) * .90) / 2 = 0.192857142857143
Delta from Min Coefficient: abs(0.192307692307692 - 0.192857142857143) = 0.00054945054945052
Delta from Max Coefficient: abs(0.192307692307692 - 0.192857142857143) = 0.00054945054945052



Coefficient calculation for Flamestrike

Tooltip Min: 876
Tooltip Max: 1071
Plus Damage: 1508

Datapoints: 1653
Min Observed: 1242
Max Observed: 1437
Expected Spread: 1071 - 876 = 195
Observed Spread: 1437 - 1242 = 195

Coefficient Formula: (Observed Value - Base Value) / Plus Damage
Coefficient by Min: (1242 - 876) / 1508 = 0.242705570291777
Coefficient by Max: (1437 - 1071) / 1508 = 0.242705570291777

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Summary:

AE + CoC = (1.5 / 3.5) / 2 = 0.2143
BW + DB + FN = ((1.5 / 3.5) * 0.9) / 2 = 0.1929
Flamestrike DD = 0..2427
Flamestrike DoT (per tick) = 0.1220